Clinton supporter calls Obama an 'inadequate black male' at DNC rules meeting

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[rob]

This woman is an idiot! Thank God she is voting for McOldman.

[Jay]

Shameful!

They want to be treated equally as women.

What happened to everyone being treated equally?

If you don't agree with Obama on merit that’s one thing. Why does he have to be an "inadequate BLACK male"? Why can't he be just an "inadequate male"?

This goes to show that the feminist movement has nothing to do with ALL women being treated equally. Just all WHITE WOMEN being treated equally.

You wanna know what being a second class citizen feels like?

Take a walk in my shoes as an AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN and then we can talk.

[simplycharming47 from Oklahoma City]

Once this Idiot comes down from all the METH ingested prior to attending todays meeting, she's going to be sooooooooooooo EMBARRASSED..I think!

Go Obama Go!!
simplycharming47

[april]

LOL, simplycharming47--i agree! girlfriend was tweaking HARD!!!!!! LOL!!!!

OBAMA '08-'16!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[candygirl]

Right on Jay !!!!

She knows absolutely nothing about being a second class citizen. She should try being apart of the double negative group (African American and female). I don't understand these Hillary supporters. Obama has said absolutely nothing about any of them but they are mad at him. I would understand if they were mad at Jeremiah Wright or Flegler but all of their anger is focused on Obama, and Obama has been the perfect gentleman to Hillary.

Another thing that I can't understand is HILLARY HAS BEEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE BEFORE. WHY IS IT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT SHE GOES BACK??? What is up with that? Maybe it's time for someone else. Has she ever thought about that?

Hillary is an inadequate candidate and that's why she lost.

[Heather Johnston]

If we are really about unity, and as Obama supporters we should be, then we have to incorporate the feelings of an older white woman who feels that Obama, with all his talent, would have waited had a candidate with Hillary's pull had been male. It was savvy of Obama;, 46 with 3 years on the senate, with Tom Daschle et al backing him to support a run against Hillary, she had an inherent weakness, her gender, as he did, his race. That is the salient take away of this video. All the rest is noise we've heard before. Obama is not inadequate, such comments are not worthy of your attention, Roland, it is way too defensive. He's fierce. Hillary Clinton got more votes than any other Democratic candidate (I think in History) save one, Barack Obama. You are fighting a battle that is already won.

We are about to have a Black Man as president of the United States. The world as we know it has already changed.

[Jiv]

Notice that the woman on the video is as old as Hillary and Ferraro. They are old and racists and feel as if they are entitled to lord it over the black man. They believe that they have more rights than black people and should be given more entitlements than blacks. This is why you see a lot of them in the US Congress, as governors all over the US, as City Council people in many cities in America. In many cities, where blacks constitute 30% to 50% of the entire population, the city jobs are occupied by 80% of white women like Ferraro and this moron on this video. This is why they feel as they do: we are second to them because they are white, even if they are as dumb as Hillary.

Hillary spent funds like an animal, yet she is their best candidate. She could not manage her campaign people well, yet she is the best to manage America. You see, there is really anything anybody can do about this group of racists. You just have to ignore them and move on with smart white women, young and old.

[Adedibru]

It is a fact that some people are beyond redemption. You simply have to leave them behind and concentrate on other segments of the population, on more progressive segments who are redeemable.

In fact, Obama should come out, hold a news conference and say, "If you are a racist, I do not need your vote; vote for McCain"

This will inform the racist white women like Ferraro and the lady on the clip that nobody cares about their antics. If everybody is like them, this nation will be divided down to every category and there will not be peace and order in any community in this nation.

I am Adedibu and I approved this rant!
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Hillary's Supporters at the Meeting are a Disgrace (Updated)
by Delaware Dem
Sat May 31, 2008 at 04:01:31 PM PDT

The Clinton campaign and all of her supporters everywhere must be embarrassed and humiliated by the rudeness of her supporters present in the meeting room.

These rude and disgraceful supporters do their candidate no service, indeed, they do her a disservice. If anecdotal reports from the meeting and the protest outside are to be believed, then these supporters are expressing their intention to embrace the Bush Administration and all of their failures and crimes by refusing to support our Party's nominee. If the same anecdotal reports are to be believed, many of the Clinton supporters present are passing out scurrilous flyers telling horrible right wing lies about our nominee, Barack Obama. These flyers are calling him an adulterer and a murderer.

It is inconceivable to me how these Clinton supporters could do such a thing given the fact that the same right wing they now embrace spread the same lies and smears about Bill Clinton during the 1990's. Indeed, the right wing called Bill Clinton a murderer back then. And now the same Clinton supporters are accepting the same lies about Barack Obama.

At the same time, these same supporters pounce on any perceived slight from any minor Obama supporter and demand immediate reparations.

And that is a disgrace and it is hypocritical.

If Hillary's supporters have at any time demanded repudiation and denunciation on the part of the Obama campaign and his supporters, then they now must denounce and repudiate their own supporters who have engaged in the most disgraceful actions today.

And they must do it now.

And if they do not, they are entitled to no consideration by anyone anywhere ever again. If Hillary Clinton does not condemn her own supporters who have acted so rudely and immorally today, then she must be entitled to no further consideration, as a potential Vice Presidential candidate, as a Democratic Senator from the great state of New York, and as a Democrat herself.

I am outraged today by the disgraceful actions of those supporters who have spread such horrible lies. They must be ashamed of themselves if they have any principles or morals.

UPDATE For proof of the ancedotal reports I mention in this diary, please visit this report by Sam Stein at the Huffington Post.

COMMENTS:
1) by livosh1 on Sat May 31, 2008 at 04:03:45 PM PDT

No better than their candidate.

I wish we didn't need them in November.
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2) by turneresq on Sat May 31, 2008 at 04:23:47 PM PDT

Kudos for Obama for keeping his supporters under control and exercising some class as well.

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3)by QueenMaeve on Sat May 31, 2008 at 05:43:09 PM PDT

My Nanny (as we call her), was born and raised in Alabama, and has always been racist. Now, she thinks Obama is the greatest thing since electricity. This is a lady who disowned my brother for dating an African-American woman. Times change, and sometimes the most unexpected people can mellow with age. Nanny's turning 80 in 6 weeks. She's end-stage COPD, on Oxygen 24/7, and has terrible osteoarthritis, but if she could get within reach of McCain or either Clinton, I believe she would go to jail for assault.

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4) by Christin on Sat May 31, 2008 at 05:53:41 PM PDT

so similar to my Mom - about the assault thing. She can't stand either one of them either.

But HRC grates on her like McCain can't.
My mom used to vote R, then Indy - but would never vote for him - and would never for for HRC either.

She said she would just sit it out if BO's not in it.
She also voted for Nader in 2000 and now regrets it.
I tease her all the time - and she gets upset - all the time - and then all the time i remind her our state was safely blue so it's okay.

But don't you love this journey they took?
The progression?

I see good things in younger people.
I see how they are more open minded, don't care about gay marriage or race etc. like the older generation does.

And I have so much hope for the future.
But what really makes me feel so damn good is to see someone come to that point after years n the dark. That is amazing.
They say people never change.

That is true for the most part - so when they do, it's like..hmmm.
Can't think of the word.
I'll just go with beautiful for now.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/31/91456/6724/836/525972

[Songbird, SC]

Wasn't she one of Real Housewives of NY? I mean.....really... this lady needs a xanax and a nap.

Attention Clinton Supporters: Get another truckin grip!!!

[Regine]

LOL the devil is a lier...does anyone find it funny that her last name is C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n...Christian?!?! Are yo kidding me...and she is on being so nasty? Thanks for this laugh on a beautiful Sunday Morning Roland...

Obama '08

[Pagee]

The she slurs her words sounded like she's drunk....I wonder if Hillary's campaign will denounce this person's behavior...instead I'm sure she will support the individual's "right" to "free" speech.....

I would love to see a woman president, just not this one and the thing her supporters refuse to accept is that Hillary lost the nomination because she ran a horrible campaign....she had no winning strategy....and true to the Clinton's philosophy, they lay blame for all their failures at other people feet.

Obama '08!

[New Yorker]

As McCain't might say of this klans woman, "Shut you fcuking kunt!" lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOl4iT46Eec

Low self-esteem in American women?

Why would female voters run to prop up a man, McCain't, who IN PUBLIC calls his wife a F-ing kunt? lol

Wouldn't females running to misogynist, McCain't, demonstrating a state of low self-esteem?

Wouldn't females running to McCain't be like Hilary remaining with Bill after enduring repeated bouts of public disrespect and PUBLIC HUMILIATIONS with the 'other women'?
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[Carolyn]

Hillary,Geraldine, Bill and others have pushed this argument. It is not about 4 more years of bush in the whitehouse, economy etc but a woman in the whitehouse and other than that it is about a white man rather than a black man. You have hillary's black supporters saying things too. If blacks see other blacks saying things and they are hillary and bill supporters it is right. Recently, I was on the bus and two blacks were talking about hillary was the person and obama did not know what he was doing, because bill this for us and that for us. A few months ago while watching Tavis Smiley's annual summit, Dick Gregory said he wanted to apologize to bill clinton for black people calling him the first black president. He then asked the audience what is wrong with you all, black who is black. Is asked is he black enough, but bill clinton is white but the first black president. Hillary would not denounce this lady, not if she wants to run for any office.

[Adedibru]

Some black people are more dangerous than some white racists. If you doubt this statement, then go and read about Andrew Young and his friend, Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria from 1998 to 2007.

Both men killed more than 3 million black Africans and helped to destroy Nigeria.

[nic]

Where's the article?

[Jaco]

Adedibru is 100% on the money. I am sure he/she can provide better articles for you, but knowing what we know today about the obnoxious and reverse-racist attitude of Andrew Young against Obama like the racist woman in the video, I can tell you that Andrew Young is capable of anything.

Many articles are on the websites of hrw.org and amnestyusa.org

You can start here:

http://www.hrw.org/doc?t=africa&c=nigeri

http://www.amnestyusa.org/other-countries/nigeria/page.do?id=1011212&n1=3&n2=30&n3=962

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Andrew Young, bagman for US capitalism in Africa
By Lawrence Porter
30 April 2007

Andrew Young, the former black civil rights leader and confidant of Martin Luther King Jr., has recently come under criticism for his dirty dealings with corrupt African governments, especially for his close relationship with General Olusegan Obasanjo, Nigeria’s former president.

Young has followed the well-worn path from protest to politician to venal corporate bagman. His case is particularly repugnant in that his earlier struggles against segregation and police repression in the American South of the 1960s contrast starkly with his present political alliances with brutal dictators. While operating as a purveyor for American corporations in their plunder of African resources, he has, not incidentally, gotten very rich in the process.

Recently both the New York Times and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution published exposes on Young’s consulting firm, ironically named GoodWorks International (GWI), as a lucrative conduit for facilitating US interests in the “emerging markets” of Africa.

According to the New York Times article, questions about Young and GWI’s relationship with the corrupt outgoing president of Nigeria, Olusegun Obasanjo, became a lighting rod for those opposing Obasanjo’s anti-democratic policies during the run-up to the sham elections held last week.

The firm advertises that it “opens doors for corporations interested in doing business in Africa and the Caribbean.” The mayor of Atlanta, Shirley Franklin, who is also a friend of Young, praised GWI for practicing “public-purpose capitalism.”

This view is not shared by those following human rights issues in Africa. “Andrew Young has never been interested in these [humanitarian] issues,” Femi Falana, president of the West African Bar Association, told the Times “He is just here making money.”

Young put it another way, “For 40 years of my life,” he told the Times, “I was on the outside seeking change. I realized that I could be more effective being on the inside implementing it.”

What changes have GWI implemented? As the principal lobbying agent for the government of Nigeria in the US, it is making millions representing major companies like ChevronTexaco, General Electric, and Motorola seeking contracts from the Nigerian government.

The company generally receives a commission equal to 1 ½ percent of a contract’s value. This is a tidy sum when GoodWorks consults on contracts such as General Electric Energy’s agreement to provide $400 million in turbines for Nigeria, as they did last year.

The firm is a major shareholder in a Nigerian energy company, Suntrust Oil, which won a lease for offshore oil fields. According to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution, Nigeria provides as much as 40 percent of GoodWorks revenues, paying $1.75 million to the company since 2000, not including a retainer fee of $60,000 a month.

GWI also specializes in relations with other oil-producing African states, including Sudan and Angola. Moreover, it represents other American companies among the most notorious for their slave-wages and environmental destruction in Africa, including Nike, Coca-Cola and the gold mining concern Barrick Gold, a company connected with the Bush family

The principals at GWI represent a virtual “who’s who” of political and corporate Democrats. According to the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Young set up GWI in 1997 with the help of Hamilton Jordon, President Carter’s former chief of staff. Foundation directors for GWI include President Bill Clinton, Alexis Herman, the former Secretary of Labor, and Maurice Tempelsman, a diamond merchant and fund raiser in the Democratic Party. Tempelsman has been implicated as an important figure in the DeBeers diamond cartel in Africa, now known as the “blood diamond” business.

Reports indicate that Young’s ties to Africa developed while he was the US ambassador to the UN in the late 70s, meeting Obasanjo, the military-installed president of Nigeria, at the time. “Obasanjo and I kind of hit it off immediately,” Young told the Times. “We were mainly interested in democracy.”

Actually, Obasanjo was a US operative, closely allied to the CIA, who took power in 1976 after his predecessor, Murtala Muhammad, was assassinated under unexplained circumstances. At the time, the US was still reeling from the OPEC oil embargo and was vitally concerned with Nigerian oil interests.

When Obasanjo left power the first time, in 1979, he was appointed to the board of directors of the CIA-run African American Institute, headed by the former US ambassador to Nigeria Donald B. Easum. In the 1980s, Obasanjo was sent on high-profile speaking tours by the Center for Strategic and International Studies and the US Institute for Peace.

Young has defended his relations with Obasanjo, portraying him as the defender of democracy in Nigeria who has broken the past practice of corruption that has been rampant since the country won its independence. Obasanjo has also received the praises of President George W. Bush and Colin Powell as an example of the type of democracy they would like to see in Africa.

A very different picture is drawn in the February 14 issue of the International Herald Tribune, in an article entitled, “Fooling people some of the time,” which reports that Obasanjo has done nothing about corruption in the country with “as much as $600 billion in ill-gotten gains sitting in foreign bank accounts while the rural farmers live on less than one dollar a day.”

The paper accuses Obasanjo of “monopolizing power the day he entered office,” and of keeping “the oil portfolio for himself so that he could use Nigeria’s vast oil wealth for political ends.” As a result, all politicians in the government were “beholden to him for money.”

In an attempt change the constitution so that he could run a third term, he tried to pressure state governors and members of Parliament with bribes as high as $400,000, the Herald Tribune said. “Governors who refused were threatened with impeachment,” as was the case with his former ally and vice president, Atiku Abubakar, who broke with Obasanjo and ran against his hand picked successor for president.

In 2004 Transparency International ranked Nigeria the most corrupt regime in Africa. According to the BBC, out of 145 countries, only Haiti and Bangladesh ranked worse. That year, Obasanjo, despite sitting on the world’s sixth largest reserves of oil, ended government subsidies on oil, sparking a series of strikes and pitched battles in which the police and military murdered protesters. The removal of subsidies was part of an IMF restructuring program that Obasanjo imposed with a vengeance.

“Who benefits from Andy Young’s relationship with the government of Nigeria? It’s not the Nigerian people,” remarked Ken Silverstein, a reporter for Harper’s Magazine. “As I see it, the primary beneficiaries of his work in Nigeria and elsewhere in Africa are those corrupt, authoritarian regimes he works with and his private corporate clients.”

Young has provided his services both to enrich his clients and himself, but also to assist the United States as it joins hands with various blood-soaked dictatorships and strongman in order to secure American strategic interests in the pivotal continent.

Young is a member of the National Security Study Group and therefore would have been briefed on the Bush administration’s newly established United States Africa Command (AFRICOM).

Young is aware that the US has developed strategic interests in the oil states of Africa and has made plans for the establishment of strategic military bases. West Africa alone has an estimated 15 percent of the world’s oil reserves. And by 2015, the region is expected to provide 25 percent of the US energy market.

Meanwhile, the funds flowing into GWI and the hands of Andrew Young are at the expense of the Nigerian and African masses. Despite the nation’s wealth in natural resources, 70 percent of its population of 140 million lives on less than US $1 per day.

[Jaco]

Adedibru is 100% on the money. I am sure he/she can provide better articles for you, but knowing what we know today about the obnoxious and reverse-racist attitude of Andrew Young against Obama like the racist woman in the video, I can tell you that Andrew Young is capable of anything.

Many articles are on the websites of hrw.org and amnestyusa.org

You can start here:

http://www.hrw.org/doc?t=africa&c=nigeri

http://www.amnestyusa.org/other-countries/nigeria/page.do?id=1011212&n1=3&n2=30&n3=962

=======================================
Andrew Young, bagman for US capitalism in Africa
By Lawrence Porter
30 April 2007

Andrew Young, the former black civil rights leader and confidant of Martin Luther King Jr., has recently come under criticism for his dirty dealings with corrupt African governments, especially for his close relationship with General Olusegan Obasanjo, Nigeria’s former president.

Young has followed the well-worn path from protest to politician to venal corporate bagman. His case is particularly repugnant in that his earlier struggles against segregation and police repression in the American South of the 1960s contrast starkly with his present political alliances with brutal dictators. While operating as a purveyor for American corporations in their plunder of African resources, he has, not incidentally, gotten very rich in the process.

Recently both the New York Times and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution published exposes on Young’s consulting firm, ironically named GoodWorks International (GWI), as a lucrative conduit for facilitating US interests in the “emerging markets” of Africa.

According to the New York Times article, questions about Young and GWI’s relationship with the corrupt outgoing president of Nigeria, Olusegun Obasanjo, became a lighting rod for those opposing Obasanjo’s anti-democratic policies during the run-up to the sham elections held last week.

The firm advertises that it “opens doors for corporations interested in doing business in Africa and the Caribbean.” The mayor of Atlanta, Shirley Franklin, who is also a friend of Young, praised GWI for practicing “public-purpose capitalism.”

This view is not shared by those following human rights issues in Africa. “Andrew Young has never been interested in these [humanitarian] issues,” Femi Falana, president of the West African Bar Association, told the Times “He is just here making money.”

Young put it another way, “For 40 years of my life,” he told the Times, “I was on the outside seeking change. I realized that I could be more effective being on the inside implementing it.”

What changes have GWI implemented? As the principal lobbying agent for the government of Nigeria in the US, it is making millions representing major companies like ChevronTexaco, General Electric, and Motorola seeking contracts from the Nigerian government.

The company generally receives a commission equal to 1 ½ percent of a contract’s value. This is a tidy sum when GoodWorks consults on contracts such as General Electric Energy’s agreement to provide $400 million in turbines for Nigeria, as they did last year.

The firm is a major shareholder in a Nigerian energy company, Suntrust Oil, which won a lease for offshore oil fields. According to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution, Nigeria provides as much as 40 percent of GoodWorks revenues, paying $1.75 million to the company since 2000, not including a retainer fee of $60,000 a month.

GWI also specializes in relations with other oil-producing African states, including Sudan and Angola. Moreover, it represents other American companies among the most notorious for their slave-wages and environmental destruction in Africa, including Nike, Coca-Cola and the gold mining concern Barrick Gold, a company connected with the Bush family

The principals at GWI represent a virtual “who’s who” of political and corporate Democrats. According to the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Young set up GWI in 1997 with the help of Hamilton Jordon, President Carter’s former chief of staff. Foundation directors for GWI include President Bill Clinton, Alexis Herman, the former Secretary of Labor, and Maurice Tempelsman, a diamond merchant and fund raiser in the Democratic Party. Tempelsman has been implicated as an important figure in the DeBeers diamond cartel in Africa, now known as the “blood diamond” business.

Reports indicate that Young’s ties to Africa developed while he was the US ambassador to the UN in the late 70s, meeting Obasanjo, the military-installed president of Nigeria, at the time. “Obasanjo and I kind of hit it off immediately,” Young told the Times. “We were mainly interested in democracy.”

Actually, Obasanjo was a US operative, closely allied to the CIA, who took power in 1976 after his predecessor, Murtala Muhammad, was assassinated under unexplained circumstances. At the time, the US was still reeling from the OPEC oil embargo and was vitally concerned with Nigerian oil interests.

When Obasanjo left power the first time, in 1979, he was appointed to the board of directors of the CIA-run African American Institute, headed by the former US ambassador to Nigeria Donald B. Easum. In the 1980s, Obasanjo was sent on high-profile speaking tours by the Center for Strategic and International Studies and the US Institute for Peace.

Young has defended his relations with Obasanjo, portraying him as the defender of democracy in Nigeria who has broken the past practice of corruption that has been rampant since the country won its independence. Obasanjo has also received the praises of President George W. Bush and Colin Powell as an example of the type of democracy they would like to see in Africa.

A very different picture is drawn in the February 14 issue of the International Herald Tribune, in an article entitled, “Fooling people some of the time,” which reports that Obasanjo has done nothing about corruption in the country with “as much as $600 billion in ill-gotten gains sitting in foreign bank accounts while the rural farmers live on less than one dollar a day.”

The paper accuses Obasanjo of “monopolizing power the day he entered office,” and of keeping “the oil portfolio for himself so that he could use Nigeria’s vast oil wealth for political ends.” As a result, all politicians in the government were “beholden to him for money.”

In an attempt change the constitution so that he could run a third term, he tried to pressure state governors and members of Parliament with bribes as high as $400,000, the Herald Tribune said. “Governors who refused were threatened with impeachment,” as was the case with his former ally and vice president, Atiku Abubakar, who broke with Obasanjo and ran against his hand picked successor for president.

In 2004 Transparency International ranked Nigeria the most corrupt regime in Africa. According to the BBC, out of 145 countries, only Haiti and Bangladesh ranked worse. That year, Obasanjo, despite sitting on the world’s sixth largest reserves of oil, ended government subsidies on oil, sparking a series of strikes and pitched battles in which the police and military murdered protesters. The removal of subsidies was part of an IMF restructuring program that Obasanjo imposed with a vengeance.

“Who benefits from Andy Young’s relationship with the government of Nigeria? It’s not the Nigerian people,” remarked Ken Silverstein, a reporter for Harper’s Magazine. “As I see it, the primary beneficiaries of his work in Nigeria and elsewhere in Africa are those corrupt, authoritarian regimes he works with and his private corporate clients.”

Young has provided his services both to enrich his clients and himself, but also to assist the United States as it joins hands with various blood-soaked dictatorships and strongman in order to secure American strategic interests in the pivotal continent.

Young is a member of the National Security Study Group and therefore would have been briefed on the Bush administration’s newly established United States Africa Command (AFRICOM).

Young is aware that the US has developed strategic interests in the oil states of Africa and has made plans for the establishment of strategic military bases. West Africa alone has an estimated 15 percent of the world’s oil reserves. And by 2015, the region is expected to provide 25 percent of the US energy market.

Meanwhile, the funds flowing into GWI and the hands of Andrew Young are at the expense of the Nigerian and African masses. Despite the nation’s wealth in natural resources, 70 percent of its population of 140 million lives on less than US $1 per day.

[Jaco]

Andrew Young, Carl Masters and Obasanjo's connection in Florida exposed.
By BARRY MEIER
April 18, 2007

LAGOS, Nigeria — For years, Andrew Young, the civil rights leader, has been deeply involved in this country through the lobbying and consulting firm he heads, GoodWorks International. Its motto is: “We do well by doing good.”

But the question of what exactly GoodWorks is or is not doing here has turned Mr. Young and his firm into something of a lightning rod, as Nigerians prepare to elect a successor Saturday to this country’s president, Olusegun Obasanjo, whom Mr. Young has known for 30 years.

“We believe that the relationship between GoodWorks International and Nigeria is foisted on juicy financial benefits to the former,” said an editorial earlier this year in a newspaper here, This Day.

For his part, Mr. Young, the former congressman, United Nations ambassador and mayor of Atlanta, dismissed such comments as sniping by opponents of Mr. Obasanjo’s party, which is expected to win the weekend election.

But there is also little question that Nigeria has been very good for GoodWorks; thanks in part to Mr. Young’s long ties to Mr. Obasanjo, his firm in Atlanta has earned millions of dollars here over the years through a network of business dealings that extend far beyond lobbying.

As business has gone increasingly global, many consulting firms based in the United States, like GoodWorks, have increased their operations abroad, taking on assignments in developing nations like Nigeria where power and wealth are frequently concentrated in a few hands. And consulting experts say it is common for United States firms that lobby for foreign governments in Washington to also have business interests in those countries.

A look at GoodWorks’ activities in Nigeria, based on interviews and documents, provides a window into how embedded such lobbyists can become in developing economies.

Along with lobbying for Nigeria, for example, GoodWorks is paid to represent many major companies like Chevron, General Electric and Motorola that seek big contracts from the Nigerian government.

In addition, executives of GoodWorks have stakes in Nigeria’s oil industry, the country’s main source of wealth. And several years ago, the firm’s chief executive, Carlton A. Masters, started an American company with close relatives of President Obasanjo that bought an expensive Miami property with Mr. Masters’s money, Florida records show.

It is not illegal for lobbyists simultaneously to represent foreign countries and companies seeking business from them. And they are not barred from having business interests in countries they represent in Washington.

Mr. Young and Mr. Masters also said in recent interviews that they had been scrupulous in avoiding conflicts between their governmental and corporate clients. They added that their clients who have won contracts in Nigeria have done so fairly, by outbidding competitors.

“We don’t pay anyone under the table, and we don’t accept any kind of questionable payments or relationships,” Mr. Young said. “We don’t work with people where there are questions of integrity involved.”

For Mr. Young, the involvement of GoodWorks in Nigeria is also one of the lesser-known chapters in a long, celebrated and at times controversial career.

Last year, for example, Mr. Young, who first became known as a top aide to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., resigned as a consultant to Wal-Mart after he said that Jewish, Arab and Korean store owners had “ripped off” black communities by “selling us stale bread and bad meat.” He subsequently apologized for the remarks.

GoodWorks has also generated controversy here. Two years ago, for instance, one local activist filed a complaint that, among other things, criticized Mr. Masters for his role in fund-raising for a $50 million, American-style presidential library named after Mr. Obasanjo that is being built in his hometown north of this chaotic and desperately poor city.

Also in 2005, the Nigerian leader was the host for Mr. Masters’s wedding at the official presidential banquet hall, an event that drew outcries from Mr. Obasanjo’s critics.

Several activists in Nigeria said in recent interviews that they believed that Mr. Young had decided simply to profit here from his legacy rather than use it to help a country that remains beset by problems of political corruption, crumbling infrastructure and failed school systems.

“Andrew Young has never been interested in these issues,” said Femi Falana, a human rights lawyer who is also president of the West African Bar Association. “He is just here making money.”

Mr. Young said that while some people still viewed him as an “activist trapped in the ’60s,” he had decided long ago that he could effect more change by attracting private investment to places like Nigeria that needed it.

He also said that the Obasanjo library, which is being underwritten by donations from local politicians and companies, would benefit all Nigerians by serving as a conference center.

“For 40 years of my life, I was on the outside seeking change,” he said. “I realized that I could be more effective being on the inside implementing it.”

GoodWorks, which Mr. Young and Mr. Masters helped found in 1996, has also lobbied in the United States for Rwanda and Turks and Caicos Islands. Mr. Young declined to disclose the firm’s revenue but said that the vast bulk of it came from its operations here.

A spokesman for Mr. Obasanjo, Uba Sani, said that the Nigerian government was pleased with GoodWorks’ performance, describing the firm as “good friends of Nigeria.” And Mr. Masters said much of the recent criticism of GoodWorks was coming from those who did not want to see the firm’s lobbying contract, which expired in April, renewed by Nigeria’s next president. After eight consecutive years as president, Mr. Obasanjo is barred from running again.

GoodWorks’ dealings in Nigeria reflect Mr. Young’s relationship over three decades with Mr. Obasanjo. And like much else in Mr. Young’s life, it is a relationship filled with a mix of drama, ideals and opportunism.

The two men met in the late 1970s, when Mr. Obasanjo, then a general, first served as this country’s president, one in a long line of military figures who ruled Nigeria.

“Obasanjo and I kind of hit it off immediately,” said Mr. Young, who was the United States ambassador to the United Nations at the time. “We were mainly concerned with democracy.”

Two decades later, the names of Mr. Young and Mr. Obasanjo, who was no longer in public office, appeared together in a United States Senate report about the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the rogue financial institution.

The report criticized Mr. Young for, among other things, trying to obtain a bank loan to help Mr. Obasanjo start a farm equipment company for which he would have worked as a consultant.

That deal never went forward. But in the mid-1990s, Mr. Young found himself urging Gen. Sani Abacha, then Nigeria’s president, to release a number of political opponents he had jailed, including Mr. Obasanjo. In 1999, the year after his release, Mr. Obasanjo was voted president in democratic elections.

Mr. Young said he believed that his old ally had since reshaped the country for the better by eliminating entrenched corruption and raising the quality of life.

“There isn’t anything that’s happened in Africa worthwhile, almost since 1960, that he hasn’t been involved in,” Mr. Young said.

Some activists credit Mr. Obasanjo for certain improvements, like taking some steps to increase the transparency of how this country’s oil wealth is distributed. But they added that he has allowed Nigeria’s infrastructure to disintegrate further while a small group of insiders has grown richer; electrical blackouts are routine and highways are so bad that short journeys can take hours.

Mr. Masters said that GoodWorks, which became Nigeria’s lobbyist in 2001, had worked with officials there to reduce the country’s international debts. But unlike some lobbyists for foreign governments, the firm appears to have done little to influence American policy toward its client. For instance, GoodWorks said that it had “no recollection” of a single instance in which it represented Nigeria in talks with any federal overseas development agencies.

Instead, the firm, apparently in keeping with Mr. Young’s philosophy, has focused its energies on business development in Nigeria and representing companies before Mr. Obasanjo’s government.

Mr. Masters said that GoodWorks typically received a “success fee” equal to 1 ½ percent of a contract’s value, a fee that can lead to big payouts. In 2005, for example, G.E. Energy, a GoodWorks client, won a $400 million contract to supply generating turbines in Nigeria.

The company, a subsidiary of General Electric, said in a statement that it had a “standard sales representative agreement” with GoodWorks, but declined to elaborate.

Mr. Young said that GoodWorks has started small companies here that employ Nigerians. But the company also has other local business interests. For example, the head of the company’s Nigerian office is the major shareholder in a local energy company, Suntrust Oil, which won a lease during a 2002 government auction of offshore fields that did not interest major energy companies.

While Mr. Young, 75, still serves as the firm’s public face, it is Mr. Masters, in his late 50s, who spends much of his time traveling through Africa and the Caribbean. Along the way he has made his own connections.

In 2001, for instance, Mr. Masters formed a Florida company, Sunscope Investments, with Mr. Obasanjo’s brother-in-law and his wife, that purchased a Miami condominium for about $750,000, Florida public records indicate.

Asked about the issue, Mr. Masters said in a written statement that he had put up the money that Sunscope used to buy the property. He added, however, that Mr. Obasanjo’s relatives had quickly lost interest in the venture and had not profited from it in any way.

Florida records indicate that Mr. Obasanjo’s sister-in-law, Yamisi Abebe, remained an officer of Sunscope until last year, when the company was dissolved and transferred its interest in the condominium to Mr. Masters for a nominal sum.

One lobbying expert, Charles Lewis, the founder of the Center for Public Integrity, a nonpartisan group in Washington that monitors lobbying, said that given Mr. Masters’s multiple lobbying roles in Nigeria, his decision to involve President Obasanjo’s relatives in his business dealings was troubling.

“It looks like hell,” Mr. Lewis said.

Mr. Masters stated he had done nothing wrong.

This weekend’s election will decide whether Umaru Yar’Adua, the candidate of Mr. Obasanjo’s party, will succeed him. If he does, it is far more likely that GoodWorks will remain Nigeria’s lobbyist than if one of the opposing parties is elected.

“We’ve never gotten involved in politics,” Mr. Young said earlier this year. “We’ve tried to stay friendly with everyone.”

[Jaco]

If we can find ways to rationalize Andrew Young's disagreements with the political opponents of Obasanjo in Nigeria, then we can also discover rational ways to explain Andrew Young's hatred of Obama's presidency in America and his dubious efforts to undermine the interest of the civil rights of the masses in the African-American communities in America.

As the saying goes, wars and peace begin at home and spread beyond the confines of the home. If you fight against the civil rights of your own people at home, you are more than likely to fight against the civil rights of other people outside your home.

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Obasanjo, Young, and Masters: What kind of cabal?
Written by Jonathan Elendu
Monday, 13 June 2005

Hope Sullivan, the daughter of the late Rev. Leon Sullivan a former civil rights leader, is the bride-to-be of Carlton Masters. The wedding is inter-continental as it is scheduled to be held in both the United States and Abuja, Nigeria in August. As earlier reported exclusively by Elendureports.com, Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo has signed on to be the father of the day for the August wedding in Abuja. Masters, an Obasanjo friend and lobbyist is the Pres/CEO of Goodworks International, LLC, and an Atlanta-Georgia based lobbying firm co-founded by Amb. Andrew Young.

Ms. Sullivan, 42, is a lawyer and President of the Washington based, The Leon H. Sullivan Foundation, a non-profit organization named after her father. Andrew Young is the Chairman of the Foundation and Sullivan's fiancé, Carlton Masters, is the Secretary of the Board of Directors of the Foundation. Masters and Ms. Sullivan each have children from previous marriages.

Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo was a Special Guest at The Gala Reception and Tribute Dinner to honour former US Secretary of State, Colin Powell on May 7th of this year organized by The Leon H. Sullivan Foundation. Apart from the President who was the guest of honour, Vice President Abubakar Tiku was also there. According to The Washington Informer, Obasanjo referred to Powell as a brother and friend, stating: "In my part of the world one of the things we cherish most is relationships. Relationships in the sense that if you find two Africans from the same village, they would introduce themselves as brothers. Powell is a brother across the Atlantic. In Colin, we have an officer and a gentleman. In all of his achievements, I feel most proud to call him my friend."

It is not Obasanjo's relationship with Colin Powell that Nigerians are worried about. More worrisome to many discerning Nigerians, however, is the relationship between Obasanjo, Andrew Young, and Carlton Masters. Although Young and Obasanjo have been friends for a long time, some analysts believe the relationship has impacted Nigerians negatively. There is a story of a meeting between Obasanjo and former Vice President Alex Ekwueme at Obasanjo's residence. While the meeting was going on, Young came in and without acknowledging the former Vice President, walked into Pres. Obasanjo's bedroom. This is a clear indication of how deep the relationship is. Young's reaction to former Vice President Ekwueme also reflects Obasanjo's denigration of past leaders especially Alex Ekwueme, who was his primary challenger at the last election.

A few curious points to consider: The Leon Sullivan Foundation dinner in honour of Colin Powell was also a fundraiser. Guests for the dinner paid a minimum of $175 a plate. The main attraction was Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria. Exactly one week later, on May 15th, Carlton Masters, who is the Secretary of the Board of Directors, husband-to-be of the President, and CEO of The Leon Sullivan Foundation, launches The Obasanjo Presidential Library in Abeokuta. The library project which has generated a lot of controversy raised more than fifty million dollars in one day. Some have argued that this is a clear case of quid pro quo and there is some validity to that claim. Also Chevron Texaco, a multi-national oil conglomerate is rumoured to have sponsored both events. From all available records at the disposal of this reporter, the involvement of the Chevron Texaco conglomerate in the affairs of the Leon Sullivan Foundation and the Sullivan family started after 1999 when Olusegun Obasanjo was elected the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Chevron Texaco is a major player in Nigeria's lucrative oil industry. We are reliably informed that MTN Nigeria, a major player in the Nigeria telecom industry, was one of the sponsors of the Washington dinner cum fundraiser.

According to a very well informed politician in Nigeria, who would not want to be named, "The relationship between the President, Andrew Young, and this Masters' guy has to be looked into. The President is thumping his chest about his so-called anti-graft war and yet for all intents and purposes he is keeping relationships that at best paints a picture of impropriety, and at worse, it's like a criminal cabal. The National Assembly is doing nothing about it and Nigerian journalists are not investigating it. One day we'll wake up and discover that Obasanjo and his friends have sold Nigeria," he concluded dramatically.

Rev. Leon Sullivan was a highly respected civil rights leader and minister. His life of service led him to establish many institutions in service of others. The organizations include, OIC for America, OIC International, The International Foundation For Education and Self Help, among others. His work and service also extended to Africa. Rev. Sullivan died on April 24, 2001.

An Abuja-based politician told Elendureports.com, "Among government insiders in Abuja, there is a saying: "Wherever Obasanjo is there you will find Andrew Young and Carlton Masters. By the way, add Hope Sullivan to the mix." Whether this was a joke or not, the President has to show by his words and actions that his much touted anti-corruption crusade is not just farce. It is now time for him to explain the Young-Masters link to Nigerians.

[Chris D dot ca]

This is a great post. Nice blog you have here too!

[Nola]

It sad to be a drunk ignorant person. This woman needs to find Hillary and then the two should walk away into the unknown

[Crap Talker]

I wish people wouldn't post these long a** articles that people have to sift through to read short and well written thought provoking comments. It's rude to other commenters.

OBAMA 08'.

[youtalktoomuch]

Crap Talker,

I totally agree with your comments. This ---- has really gotten out of hand!!!! Suggestion People, Just give the damn website!!

[wewillwin]

Amen..

[simplycharming47 from Oklahoma City]

exactly...

Go Obama'08
Yes We Can!!

[andrew]

I find the long articles very informative and interesting because they show why Andrew Young, Bob Johnson, and many others in our AA communities are treating us as they do.

Obama could have lost this battle if Andrew Young and Bob Johnson got their wishes and ways.

[Self-Hate Is Alive]

"If we can find ways to rationalize Andrew Young's disagreements with the political opponents of Obasanjo in Nigeria, then we can also discover rational ways to explain Andrew Young's hatred of Obama's presidency in America and his dubious efforts to undermine the interest of the civil rights of the masses in the African-American communities in America.

As the saying goes, wars and peace begin at home and spread beyond the confines of the home. If you fight against the civil rights of your own people at home, you are more than likely to fight against the civil rights of other people outside your home."

The above EXPRESSES MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY ABOUT ANDREW YOUNG. THE ARTICLES WERE INFORMATIVE.

SUGGESTIONS:
1) KEEP THE LONG ARTICLES FLOWING INTO HERE.

2) JONATHAN - PLEASE GO AWAY TO HANNITY AND FOX BLOGS

[Delusional]

Here what the woman on the video said:

“I am proud to be a an old American woman”

“Democrats have thrown the election away”

“For what?”

“An inadequate black man”

The words above from the old racist woman are SIMILAR to the words Andrew Young.

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Civil Rights Icon Calls Obama Too Young
Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:52 PM EST
politics, obama, barack-obama, white-house, young, andrew-young
Errin Haines, Associated Press Writer

ATLANTA — Civil rights icon Andrew Young says Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is too young and lacks the support network to ascend to the White House.

In an interview posted online, Young also quipped that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton has her husband behind her, and that "Bill is every bit as black as Barack."

"He's probably gone with more black women than Barack," Young said of former President Clinton, drawing laughter from a live audience. Young, 75, was quick to follow his comment on Bill Clinton with the disclaimer, "I'm clowning."

Young, a former United Nations ambassador and lieutenant of Martin Luther King Jr., made the comments at an appearance at "Newsmakers Live," an urban media forum that interviews prominent Atlanta personalities and political figures.

Excerpts of the interview were posted on Newsmakers Journal, the Newsmakers' Web site, though the date of the appearance was not included with the video posting. Young had been scheduled to appear on "Newsmakers Live" on Sept. 5, according to a press release.

Repeated efforts by The Associated Press to reach Young were unsuccessful. Obama campaign officials declined Saturday to comment on Young's remarks.

Young's comments were prompted by a member of the audience who inquired about his opinion on Obama's candidacy.

"I want Barack Obama to be president," Young said, pausing for effect, "in 2016."

"It's not a matter of being inexperienced. It's a matter of being young," Young said. "There's a certain level of maturity ... you've got to learn to take a certain amount of (expletive)."

Young went on to say that Obama needs a protective network that he currently lacks — a quality that could hurt him if he were to be elected. He said Hillary Clinton already has that kind of network, including her husband to back her up.

"There are more black people that Bill and Hillary lean on," Young said. "You cannot be president alone. ... To put a brother in there by himself is to set him up for crucifixion. His time will come and the world will be ready for a visionary leadership."

[Darell]

Roland:

Ignore the Crap Talker. He is the same as Jonathan who once praised Hannity and Fox News on this blog. He should consider going to Fox blogs.

If anybody has read long articles concerning Andrew Young's activities in Nigeria, please post them here. We will forward the articles to President Obama.

[Will of AA People]

“Democrats have thrown the election away”

“For what?”

“An inadequate black man”

Compare the words of the old hag to the words of Charles Rangel on the following video.

Charles Rangel repeated the same thoughts as Andrew Young.

Roland:
The woman called Christian on the video you provided copied her thoughts from Charles Rangel and Andrew Young:

Judge for yourselves here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqvZiUdUyb0

Please post more long articles on Andrew Young. WE need to expose these people.

[Sad and Sad]

Wolf at CNN will enjoy the racist attitude of this woman because he enjoyed Andrew Young's exact and similar words against Obama's candidacy. Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=breSVtVYSmo

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=27f_1197239354

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Civil Rights Icon Andrew Young Says Obama “Too Young” To Be President - Perhaps Young Never Heard Of Jack Kennedy?

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"With friends like Andrew Young, modern blacks in America don’t need enemies"
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My statement will surprise and outrage many of our black American readers because Andrew Young was, and is, a major civil rights icon who is owed a great debt by every American: no matter their race.

In the 1950’s and 1960’s Young marched, protested, organized and went to jail for his efforts. He registered black voters and was in Selma, Alabama when the police turned the dogs and fire hoses on women and children. In Birmingham he played a key role as a moderator and peacemaker between the black and white communities.

Young was with Martin Luther King Jr. on that fatal day in 1968 when King was called home in Memphis, Tennessee. He was elected to Congress in 1972 at the age of 40 and five years later became the first black to serve as the American ambassador to the United Nations.

But as much as he has done, Young has also been found offside more than a few times. His rambling mouth has been the source of some very outrageous and ill-considered statements over the years and he has paid the price more than once for his spontaneous lack of judgment.

His latest “Did I say that?” is a big one, and shows that it is time for Andrew Young to fade into the sunset… quickly please, before he does any more damage.

Barack Obama Has A Good Shot At Being The First Black American President
First a disclaimer: If I still lived in the United States and was eligible to vote in the USA (I am not eligible to vote in the USA - never was), I would probably be voting for Barack Obama. The system needs a shakeup and he had the courage to vote against making war on Iraq. I don’t agree with some of his policies, but of all the choices I believe (rightly or wrongly) that Obama is the best choice if voters are looking for a candidate with integrity. I believe that Obama is at his core, honest, and that he will try to remain as honest as he can when elected.

In my opinion, Obama’s skin colour is NOT a proper reason to support his candidacy. If he was black but a crook, I could not support him.

But Obama is black, and like him or not, he could be the first black to be President of the United States of America.

Was John F. Kennedy Too Young To Be President At 46 Years Old?

Jack Kennedy was 46 years old when he became President.

William “I love a good cigar” Clinton was 46 years old when he was sworn in as President on January 20, 1993.

If he wins, Obama will be 47 years old when he enters the White House.

So why would Andrew Young be so intellectually dishonest as to say that Obama is “too young”?

Andrew Young is welcome to support Hillary Clinton all he wants on the basis that she lifted her skirt above her knees and did a Detroit “Soul Train” line at Nelson Mandela’s inauguration. (Really… you have to watch the video to believe it)

Young can say anything he wants. After all, it is America, not Barbados.

But young Americans and especially young black Americans deserve honesty - and intellectual honesty - from their leaders. Andrew Young has turned himself into a dishonest buffoon and that is a shame for a new generation who should be remembering him for his finer accomplishments.

[Stop Hate]

Roland, thanks for posting the video here

Darell, thank you for the quotes from Roland's video.

Jaco, hhanks for posting the long articles on Andrew Young's illegal activities in Nigeria. WE NEED MORE SUCH LONG ARTICLES.

The following two videos should be repeated and attached to every post here:

1) Andrew Young on his own words
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=27f_1197239354

2) Wolfe supporting Andrew Young's Reverse Racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=breSVtVYSmo

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Andrew Young: Barack Obama Too Young to Be President
By Sylvia Cochran, published Dec 10, 2007

Andrew Young, a civil rights leader who used to serve in the Carter Administration, says Barack Obama is too young to serve as president. Is he?

Our founding fathers were content with settling the qualifications for the presidency of the United States to be that of any candidate being a natural born citizen who has lived for at least 14 years within the country and is at least 35 years of age. Democratic contender for the party's nod Barack Obama fulfills all of the Constitutional requirements: the junior senator from the state of Illinois was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, and is 46 years of age. Even though he was absent from the country between ages six and 10, he has since lived in the United States. Thus, for all intents and purposes, Barack Obama is amply qualified under the US Constitution to become President.

The age issue of course is more of a personal cheap shot than a true concern. After all, if the founding fathers figured that 35 years was a sufficient age, what is the problem with 46?

Take for example Republican Ulysses S. Grant who also was 46 when he became President in 1869; sure, he had his problems while in office, but by and large the number of streets currently named after him point to his lasting memory of a job at least marginally well done.

Coming in at only 42 years of age, Republican Theodore Roosevelt became the 26th President of the United States in 1901. Nonetheless, he managed to deal with the 1902 anthracite coal miner strike and furthermore created 42 million acres of national forests.

Much beloved John F. Kenney became President at the age of 43 and has been one of the most well liked democratic presidents bar none. Dealing with the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 was one of the most documented feats in American history.

Another popular democrat, Bill Clinton came into office in 1993 when he was 46 years of age. Much has been said in recent history about his presidency - his "don't ask, don't tell" policy is the butt of countless jokes while the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 is by many considered to be one of his finest hours - but without a doubt his shaping influence on the Unites States of America cannot be denied.

[Harold]

Andrew Young said it first.

Charles Rangel repeated it.

The racist white woman repeated both Rangel and Andrew Young.
Here is Obama's Response to Andrew Young:

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Andrew Young Wants Obama to Wait His Turn
Sunday, December 9, 2007

A bunch of nonsense spewing from the mouth of former civil rights "icon" Andrew Young. From the Associated Press:

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Civil rights icon Andrew Young says Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is too young and lacks the support network to ascend to the White House.

In an interview posted online, Young also quipped that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton has her husband behind her, and that "Bill is every bit as black as Barack."

..."I want Barack Obama to be president," Young said, pausing for effect, "in 2016."

"It's not a matter of being inexperienced. It's a matter of being young," Young said. "There's a certain level of maturity ... you've got to learn to take a certain amount of (expletive)."

Young went on to say that Obama needs a protective network that he currently lacks _ a quality that could hurt him if he were to be elected. He said Hillary Clinton already has that kind of network, including her husband to back her up.
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Folks, don't be fooled. Let me explain this to you...the only reason the mainstream black political establishment is supporting Hillary Clinton boils down to one word and one word only -- JOBS (for them).

A lot of career Democrats, black, white, brown, and otherwise are really furious at Barack because they made the choice to hitch their career wagons to the "sure bet" of Hillary Clinton early in the game. But then comes Barack who stands the best chance of upsetting their career goals.

They'd much rather have Barack agree to wait for "his turn," so that they can have their 8 years of steady employment under Hillary, with Barack running after that.

Barack is not playing politics and favoritism as usual, and this is pissing a lot of people off.

Source:
http://www.barackoblogger.com/search/label/Andrew%20Young

[Diane from NH]

We need more long articles - make them very very long on Andrew Young.

Roland,

please save these LONG articles. We will need them in the future to prove court cases against Andrew Young at the Hague

The woman did copy her ideas from these two videos:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=27f_1197239354

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=breSVtVYSmo

[Ahmad]

Andrew Young: “Barack Obama is too young and lacks the support network to ascend to the White House”

Christian: “An inadequate black man”

Tell me the difference between the two claims above????????

Is there a difference between racism from old white woman and racism from Andrew Young?

If Andrew Young did not start on this line of thought, would Hillary, Bill, Ferraro, and Christian have the guts to say these things?

Roland and others like him: Don’t blame the woman. She learned her words from Andrew Young.

"There are those who say that Barack Obama should wait his turn. There are those who say that he should take a gradual approach to presidential leadership, but none of us is God. We don't know what the future holds, so we must respond to the pressures and the fortunes of history when the moment strikes. And Iowa, I believe that moment is now."
~~ Oprah Winfrey

Here are other readers’ comments, more objective readers:
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1) Andy Young is way off base. He sounds a little bufoonish talking about Clinton and Hillary acting black. Obama has the maturity and the experience to be the next president. Plus his personal background is well suited for dealing with international challenges. I don't get it. Individuals of Young's generation marched and protested so that Obama's generation would have doors open to them. Now he's saying that it's not time. If not now, when?

Sent by marian | 8:09 PM ET | 12-07-2007

2) With all due respect to Ambassador Young, Senator Obama's youth, vitality, and charisma are exactly what America needs. I love Senator Hillary Clinton but with the nature of her political experience she can better serve our country in the Senate. Fresh political thinking is required to address the morass of problems that politics as usual has wrought. Barack Obama gives me hope and, for me (a sixty year old Miami housewife), his time is now.

Sent by ANNETTE BAGLEY | 6:25 AM ET | 12-08-2007

3) Andy Young is sounding very much like an old fool. Just cause he doesn't know who Barack has around him does not mean Barack does not have a solid support system. He has no idea what Barack's life has been like. And saying Barack has a "Chinese" sister from Indonesia? Huh?! Why are some folks so shameless and brazen in showing off their ignorance? And just cause many Black Southerners are blase enough to allow the Clintons to straddle the racial fence doesn't mean they do not "go dumb" when it is time to jump bad and "play white".

Barack Obama is a citizen of the world who THINKS globally and ACTs locally. He does not require the yardsticks set by the Stonehenge Brothers of the Civil Rights movement to decide when he is seasoned enough to lead. He is READY NOW BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE TIME IS NOW AND THIS COUNTRY NEEDS HIM NOW. Relax Andy and "crack some nuts" with Bubba. It's some new Grown Folks who got your back.

Sent by Gloria Alee | 7:09 AM ET | 12-08-2007

4) That Andrew Young would use that tired, cliched observation with respect to Barack is truly numbing. Were not Andrew Young and company told back in the day that the time wasn't right for black equality? And he is today repeating the same mantra with respect to Barack being ready to be President. Have we learnt anything from history?

Sent by Bernard | 10:52 AM ET | 12-08-2007

5) Barack Obama is ready and able to get things moving in the right direction for our country!
I have always had madd respect for Young. However some need to stop hating on Mr. Obama. Get out of that old mindset. Start backing him and help him and our country. Now is the time. What and why should we wait?

Sent by Ms. Diop | 11:24 AM ET | 12-08-2007

6) l think Obama is the only president that can clean up the mess and now is the time we need him.
We need him and we are going to have in the white house regardless of what you say Mr Young. So, please keep your peace because there is alot of us who love president Barack Obama.

Sent by sandra | 1:22 PM ET | 12-08-2007

7) Well here's what Oprah said this weekend in Iowa (not in direct response to Young): "There are those who say that Barack Obama should wait his turn. There are those who say that he should take a gradual approach to presidential leadership, but none of us is God," Ms. Winfrey said. "We don't know what the future holds, so we must respond to the pressures and the fortunes of history when the moment strikes. And Iowa, I believe that moment is now."

Sent by C James | 7:49 PM ET | 12-08-2007

8) Gasp. I had to actually watch the Andrew Young video three times, because I just couldn't believe what I was hearing. Was he drunk or has he just gone completely nuts?

I got a strange sense here (and I fully admit that I could be wrong on this) that Young NEVER wants to see an African-American President, because in his mind that individual could somehow eclipse MLK in history. (Which is crazy...MLK is one of the greatest Americans ever. No matter how much I like Obama, he ain't gonna eclipse Dr. King!) Young managed to seem jealous and dismissive of Obama one second, and then highly complimentary the next (One positive line about Obama was, "He's brilliant.").

The whole thing was so bizarre. Comparing Obama to Maynard Jackson (now dead) and Bill Campbell (now in jail) makes NO sense. He also said, "Leadership requires suffering." Sometimes, but not always. It unfortunately did for MLK, but not for all great leaders.

The whole Chinese half-sister and "Islamic schools" comment? I'd say his premise is right (that Obama's international make-up will be a plus in dealing with the world), but why on earth did he frame it in such a racist way?

He also said, "To put a brother in there (the White House) is to set him up for crucifixion." What on earth is that supposed to mean? He apparently doesn't think Obama can handle himself, which I think is crazy.

Hillary's in a MAJOR bind on this one, because if you distance yourself from Andrew Young, her black vote is GONE, or it's at least gonna suffer big time. If she doesn't...ouch...if she doesn't distance she's in deep trouble too, especially with Drudge running this at the top of the page. This is a no win situation for Hillary if I've seen one, which is fine with me, because I'm for Obama! It's just too bad Andy Young would soil his reputation like this.

Sent by CornBred | 12:46 AM ET | 12-09-2007

9) Bill commits adultery with many black women, so he is blacker than a black man, so vote for Bill's wife. Obama does not commit adultery, so he is not as black as Bill. You see, all black men commit adultery, and that is a signal of their manhood and just how black they are. If you have a wife and don't cheat on her, you are not worthy of a black persons vote, huh?
The black slave owners and slave overseerers also had sex with lot's of black women. Did that make their wives qualified to be president of the united states?

This is some of the sickest stuff to ever come out of the Clinton sewers.

Sent by Darrel | 12:34 PM ET | 12-09-2007

10) There are those of us black that are really fearful of other black people rising beyond their place. I can not believe that with Mr. Young has fought for over the years that he would make comments like those. I believe that one of the greatest legacies of racism is internalized racism. In every group there is some level of self loathing but we black people have it in a particularly alarming way. The world is changing with or without the Jesse Jacksons, and Andrew Youngs of the world. Finally, what is this adoration the some black folk seem to have with the Clinton years. Is it ending welfare, Is it ending poverty?

Sent by Tad | 2:00 PM ET | 12-09-2007

11) I think Andrew Young really lost it. First Spokesperson for Wal-Mart, then his support for Paul Wolfowitz who later was fired from his position as World Bank President, now this strange arguments about why Senator Clinton? Because her husband had gone with more black women than Obama!!!!!!!!! I think the problem of Andrew Young and many other black leaders like him, is they can't simply accept the fact that someone outside their dynasty or self-centered elite can become a serious president contender. I am not an Obama supporter but I believe its time for blacks in this country to decide freely without someone like Andrew Young telling them who should run now and who should run 2016.

Sent by John Adams | 4:40 PM ET | 12-09-2007

12) Part of Douglas Wilder's sense of fraternity with Obama comes from the success the latter is achieving independent of the African-American establishment, with its high-profile representatives who are self-appointed but receive great deference.

"Certain black leaders would believe that you have to go through their prism: 'If I lay my hand on you, you're OK,' " Wilder said with a chuckle. "So many people have made a living off of the pimping of race. I told him when he runs, one of his big problems he would have is with the African-American leadership, as such. He didn't question it. He said, 'I think I know what you mean.' "

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5518.html

Sent by Andy Young Is a Race Pimp | 8:12 PM ET | 12-09-2007

13) It is utterly foolish to think that anyone is actually "ready" to be President of the United States. I don't think anyone is ever truly completely "ready" to be leader of the world's largest industrial complex. With that said, as an African American Conservative who most likely not be voting for Senator Obama, I am offended by the tired and irrelevant musings of Ambassador Young. I completely support Senator Obama's right to run for the position and I appreciate his aspiration to this high office. In many ways he represents something that American politics needs - some new faces and ideas. The real issue is he ready, but can he make wise decisions, while providing good leadership and inspiration to others to lead and to take responsibility. I think it is quite obvious that Senator Obama can do both of these well.

Sent by Ed | 10:15 AM ET | 12-10-2007

14) A couple of things come to mind with Mr. Andy's comments. One: the Clinton express must be really steamrolling a whole bunch of out-of-touch, out-to-lunch n-word. Too YOUNG? Somebody needs to remind that crew of the fact that the civil rights movement was dead in the mud until the college, high school and even 13 year old students reared up. It was then that those Southern Christians got a jump start. Two: I'm not a historian, however i don't think a Catholic elder said John Kennedy was too young or anything close to what some of these Clinton lackeys are spouting these days about Barack Obama.

I said it before and i'll say it again and again and again: Those old n-word need to sit in a rocking chair, have a coke and a smile - and shut the heck up!

Sent by Anthony | 11:30 AM ET | 12-10-2007

15) Mr. Young should have checked his facts before he decided to shuck and jive in public. He did not say one good thing about Hillary, except that she could do the job because her husband would be by her side. Bill Clinton's age when he took the oath of office - 46. Barack's age in January 2009 - 47.
It is so insulting when black people talk down to black people about serious issues. And what is Hillary's political network as cited by Mr. Young - the "defense committee" of Hillary's friends that Hillary organized to defend against attacks from women Bill had been involved with.

That's the judgment and character we want in out next leader. If even Hillary's supporters are cracking jokes about Bill's inability to remain faithful, what does she expect when the campaign begins in earnest?
The old Civil Rights Establishment hates that their is a new day and that the bus no longer pays tolls at their door.

Sent by tina | 2:11 PM ET | 12-10-2007

16) I think andy has no idea what he is talking about. He is an bitter old fool. Waiting your turn is the exact same thing some whites told the blacks during the civil rights movement.

If having experience equaled doing a good job then pres bush would have more support in his administration and the war in iraq would not have gone on this long.

It is sad that andy (given his civil rights experience) has the audacity to come out so negatively about another black man. I feel he is EXTREAMLY jealous and should do us all a favor and keep his mouth shut.
Hilary Clinton is NOT bill clinton and she is NOT an honest person. She will do and say ANYTHING to be elected. I DON'T TRUST HER!!!

Sent by forchange | 9:36 PM ET | 12-10-2007

17) Had I not seen the video clip, I would not have believed that such comments could come from one of the leading icons of the civil rights movement. As some have suggested, I guess time has passed ole Andy by. I'm not surprised that there are some who feel that Hillary has a better shot at winning the white house, but when you examine the facts closely you can easily see that Obama is different. The fact that he has broad appeal across racial lines (ala oprah, tiger woods)tells me this guy can go all the way. So, it boils down to: do you want politics as usual or do you want change? I happen to believe that Obama would be the better agent for change in this country...the kind of change that would benefit working americans. Hillary on the other hand is just too beholden to the big money guys.

Sent by sid daniels | 8:53 PM ET | 12-11-2007

18) When I hear a man like Andrew Young say that "Bill Clinton is every bit as black as Barack Obama," I feel as though I've been cut to my soul. How in the name of Heaven...? Strike that. How in Hell could a Black man, living in America, believe that a White man would know what it's like to be Black? The world is upside down and I'm just about to lose my grip on reality.
You mean to tell me, Mr. Young, that Barack doesn't know he's Black? What America do you live in, Mr. Young? Must be the one from the Twilight Zone about the parallel universe? And, on your side, it's all good. Because, the America you live in, Mr. Young, has never made you feel Black or, as though you were less than a man.

Well, in the words of your dear friend Bill Clinton, "Give me a break!"
Even Oprah and Tiger Woods has come up against their share of prejudice in America.

I've never seen you shuckin' and jivin', Mr. Young. And, yet your statement implies that just because Obama is intelligent, he's not Black enough! Or, as you also stated, Barack isn't Black enough because "Bill Clinton has probably gone out with more Black women than Barack?" Or, could Bill Clinton be more Black than Barack because he wanted to dance like Black people? It wasn't the Soul Train line Bill Clinton told you to get in, Mr. Young. It was the line for the kool-aid.

Think about this, Mr. Young. As the great Chris Rock said once upon a time, there isn???t a white man in the world who would trade places with him even with all his money. That includes Bill Clinton. Oh, but I forgot. Bill is already Black according to you.

Sent by WAKE UP AMERICA!!! | 10:59 PM ET | 01-22-2008

19) LET'S MAKE A SLAVE

Let us make a slave. What do they need? (First of all they need us to turn against each other, Andy you and Bobby demonstrated that). How do you march with Dr. King for a change then and sellout NOW

Second, if you spell now backwards it spells WON and that's what Andy and Bobby thinks they won They have no more fight in him.

They are using the same basic principle on us they use in breaking a horse, combined with some more supporting factors. What they do with horses is break them from one form of life to another, (have you forgot were we came from all the butt whippings that was given from the marches during the movement.) They want to reduce us from our natural state in nature, sticking together as a tribe ( to get you to say just what you said) Whereas nature provides them with the natural capacity to take care of their offspring,( we are the offsprings of Dr. King and people like you and Bob Johnson are sellouts and there is a whole lot more like you standing in that line) If they break that natural string of independence we have work for it thereby create a dependency status that we may be able to get from them useful production for our own business or for themselves ( I'm sure your pockets are being lined or have been lined in the past) and pleasure.(you got a laugh, you and Bobby Johnson and you both did just what they wanted division in our race, Thank You Andy and Bobby!!!!!! At lease there was shame in their game they had on Hoods

Andy you should me ashamed of yourself, oh yea Andy and Bobby is what they call you when you're in the good ole boys club not the boyz club you sellouts.

One Black Mans opinion.

Sent by A.Green | 4:39 PM ET | 01-24-2008

[Edmond]

The bible says:

"When I was a child I spoke as a child I understood as a child I thought as a child; but when I became a man I put away childish things."

Andrew Young is still a child, still stuck in childishness, still speaking in childish ways.

This is the same behavior displayed by Christine on Roland's video. This is the same behavior displayed by Bob Johnson, Tavis Smiley, Charles Rangel, and Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria.

The truth hurts for some people, especially one Yoruba boy who comes here under many names such as simplycharming47, HuGuy, Jonathan, etc, etc

These childish people enjoy seeing other people suffer. They enjoy causing divisions and problems for other human beings because their livelihood depends on the suffering they help to create for us. I challenge you to Google "Andrew Young and Olusegun Obasanjo" to understand what Andrew Young did in Nigeria with this kind of behavior his displayed against Obama. I copied all the articles I could find here and elsewhere on Andrew Young's activities in Nigeria and sent them to somebody who knows Obama personally to give to Obama ideas on what Andrew Yound did to blacks in Nigeria.

Folks, we got some serious problems with some black people who help to create racists like Ferraro and Christine and Bill and Hillary. This is not an accident. This is orchestrated to keep some people wealthy while our masses suffer.

We need to wake up to this reality now!

[Michael7]

Roland,

What the woman and others on that video stream are really expressing is their invisible privilege of being white in america. Because of the racist policies of the past in america that maintain, and to a large degree, still maintain a white power base in all areas of our society (banking, media, political, etc.)whites cannot accept the fact that the time has come for america to actually be what america was supposed to be according to the constitution. And for some, change and the reality of that change is hard to accept. That is why her statement of being a second class citizen is so absurd when taken in context with the historical inequalities this nation has imposed upon it's citizen's of color.

Sen. Obama represents all that is right with this country. Forget the fact that he is a Black man for a moment and just look at his biography, and one has to marvel at where he is today based on where he started out. Factor in his race and anyone must agree that he has become the face of what america really stands for.

Sen. Clinton supporters like this lady must have forgotten when Blacks in NY City where denied access to public schools, neighborhoods, banks by whites just because of the color of their skin during her lifetime. She has forgotten all of the Black people from NY City who fought and died for this nation just so she could have the right to voice her racist opinions to the media, who by the way, have not shown this on the cable shows or their nightly newscasts. Hmmm....wonder why? Maybe we need to send this to them and see if they play it?

Her desire to vote for McCain just because her candidate lost, fair and square, shows the same political ignorance that a lot of white people in OH,PA,WV and KY showed when they voted for Bush in 2000 & 2004, by voting against their own economic self-interest because they did not "like" the Democratic nominee as a person, not so much their policies. And I bet a dime to a dollar that if McCain were to somehow win (God forbid) in November and one of her family members or friends family members dies in Iraq, will she regret the day she voted for McCain and wonder if Sen. Obama were in the White House, would that person be alive today?

[simplycharming47 from Oklahoma City]

Nope sorry "Edmond", UNLIKE YOURSELF, SIMPLYCHARMING47 is a REAL Person, Get it right!!

Go Obama '08

[Carolyn]

Here we go again. The only thing you can do is say he hit both or didnot hold any punches. But it is sad when a person of his statue, and one who cries at the mention of King's name. What would King say of him. I know he has a lot of people mad. He needs prayer.

[Edmond]

Roland, I really do not understand what pushes some people into extreme dogmatic positions.

Look this Iowa Governor who supported Hillary. He has seen that there is no way Hillary can clinch this nomination. Yet Hillary and her delusional supporters fail to acknowledge the inevitable. Rather, they are bitter and make fools out of themselves. Why not concede that you have failed and move on? What do you tell your children about life and dealing with adversities? Some people are simply too immature to be called adults and to be in position of power to control the lives of the rest of the population of their nation.

This is why Hillary's healthcare effort failed - because she does not know how to handle other people and their feelings and interests.

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Vilsack says it's over
June 2, 2008

(CNN) – Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, one of Hillary Clinton's most ardent supporters, said Sunday it's time for Hillary Clinton to acknowledge she has lost her bid for the Democratic nomination.

Vilsack, who was briefly a presidential candidate himself last year, told the Associated Press it's "pretty clear that Senator Obama is going to be the nominee."

"After Tuesday's contests, she needs to acknowledge that he's going to be the nominee and quickly get behind him," Vilsack also said.

Vilsack first announced he was running for president in November, 2006, but dropped his bid three months later after the Democrat failed to drum up a significant level of support or raise the necessary campaign funds needed to compete. He endorsed Clinton shortly after and played a key role in the New York senator's unsuccessful Iowa campaign effort.

His comments came the same day the Clinton showed signs she plans to press on after Tuesday's contests — continuing argue she has won the popular vote and that the party's superdelegates are able to switch their allegiances before the convention in August.

[nic]

"I was a second-class citizen before, and now I'm nothing." What a headcase!

America's stupid people support Hillary. There, I said it.

[Jackie]

This only goes to show how badly we need a change!
OBAMA 08!

[Shary J]

Obama all the way :-)

[Onlythetruth]

That woman is crazy. I'm beginning to think that old white women are the most racist people on earth. Good God!

[Shary J]

I read you Onlythetruth ;-).

[Nicole]

What happens when a white woman doesn't get what's entitled to her: she has a temper tantrum.

[Veronica]

This old wind bag needs to sober up and accept the fact that her candidate has been defeated "fair and square" by this "inadequate" black male who is about to become THE next President!!!

[rlp-politcal]

typical white woman... suicide is next.

as a white mom would say she "Needs a Time Out"

[animi-yorubrat]

Anybody who loses sleep over "un-dead things" is wasting valuable time.

Christian and illiterates like her and yonder are walking dead people - useless to their kind, in their hell on earth.

Christine, as they say about the tribe of your "un-dead things", "your entire tribe is already dead and buried".

Hillary will announce this dead thing today.

[Jocelyn]

Ignorance is alive and well in America. Obama will win. Why? Because he has given us inspiration to uplift ourselves therey uplifting America. He ran a good clean campaign. He planned and executed a good campaign Obama 08. We have had dirt thrown on America from Bill and Hillary's disgraceful conduct from Arkansas to the White House. Why should we pick candidate with such disgraceful behavior to govern America. It is time for a change. There are some many telling signs.The economy, war, eroding of basic Christian values and behavior. What kind of example do they set? Why couldn"t feminist pick a candidate with some good character traits? Why did they lower their standards to pick this candidate? Aren't there any better choices? So sad. Stay on message Obama. OBAMA 08

[J house]

She has a right to her opinion, but what does his race have to do with it?
Obama won't get elected President not because of his color, but because of his leftist politics.
Ask yourself, why couldn't John Kerry beat GW? Kerry had more experience than GW or Obama. He was a war vet. His liberal credentials were 'as good' as Obama's. True, he is not as gifted a speaker or as politically savvy.

Still, he got creamed in the general election..why?

Democrats would like to think it is because he was 'swift boated' or similarly, that special interests did him in...no, this is about the avg American's trust in capable leader that puts our nation's interests FIRST.

This is why Obama will lose more votes that Kerry simple as that.

[J house]

For you Obama supporters out there, doesn't it bother you that Obama has to lie about his Muslim upbringing? No one should care what faith he practices, but they should care about his willingness to lie about his youth in order to get elected. It demonstrably shows you he doesn't have enough faith in the American people to be honest about this. Since we are all bigots in his eyes, he feels he must do this in order to run for office and win.
He was born of a Muslim father...period.He practiced Islam in Indonesia.At some point years later in his life, he converted to Christianity (not the Christianity of RICH WHITE PEOPLE, either, as his former pastor reminds us all).

Ask any Muslim in the Middle East/SE Asia what they think about Muslim converts to Christianity? They are considered heretics. The penalty for this is DEATH in Saudi Arabia.

It is also clear that Obama has no love for his own country (all 57 states).Not suprising, considering his own Mother's viewpoint and his fellow travelers in the US like Wright, Ayers, etc.
You see, America is no better than any other country and deserves no status better than any other. We are on par with Mali or Iran, as far as Obama is concerned.We are only an 'imperfect union', in his words.
My only solace is that if he is elected President, Wright, Tupac, Maxine Waters and the rest of these racists can stop blaming RICH WHITE PEOPLE for being in charge and it will prove that they have been LYING to us when they said a black man cannot be elected POTUS.
I will give credit for Obama being honest about raising our taxes to pay for his grand plans and determined to get us out of Iraq, even if it means a disaster for US prestige or Iraq's people.

[carol trent]

Obama has revealed that he will leave intact all of the power that Bush stole from the constitution. In otherwords he is in favor of ileagle wire tapping and all of he rest of the tyrannical bs. Face it Obama dummies we did not have a choice. They are all the same.
I am a black woman. Not brainwashed though.
Carol Trent